Taylor Swift Says She Didn’t Really See Sexism in the Music Industry Until Red’s Success

We're just a couple weeks away from the release of Taylor Swift's latest album, Lover, on August 23. And in the lead-up to its release, we're learning more and more about where Swift is at in her life—through Easter eggs left in her videos and commercials and in interviews, like her latest one for Vogue. (She graces the cover of the magazine's September issue.)

In the interview, Swift opens up about various aspects of her career, including the shift she saw once she transitioned from a rising star in the industry to a powerful woman. When asked if she was always aware of sexism around her, Swift gives this thoughtful answer: "When I was a teenager, I would hear people talk about sexism in the music industry, and I’d be like, 'I don’t see it. I don’t understand,'" she tells Vogue. "Then I realized that was because I was a kid. Men in the industry saw me as a kid. I was a lanky, scrawny, overexcited young girl who reminded them more of their little niece or their daughter than a successful woman in business or a colleague. The second I became a woman, in people’s perception, was when I started seeing it.